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Converted
04-22-2005, 03:25 PM
Members, Your immediate help is needed!

As you know UW-F has been pressing the hydrilla control issue and it is starting to pay off. Now comes the hard part... The details!

UW-F has received a written request from the FWC to help them develop site specific hydrilla and tussock control decisions for consideration by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection. Specifically we have been asked to provide suggested locations to allow hydrilla to top out and be completely untreated. :icon_salu Also needed is site specific tussock (large rafts of floating aquatic vegation) control suggestions. This information is to be used for the '05/'06 season. Input is needed by Friday May 6, '05

For this stage of the battle FWC is working with DEP. ONLY LAKES MANAGED BY DEP ARE TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS LIST. For example, the St Johns river system roughly north of Lake Poinsett is managed by the Corp of Engineers. That area will be a seperate battle. Water Management District properties i.e. Stick Marsh are also a seperate issue. Additionally we've been told the areas must be public lakes or river systems with public boat ramps.

Obviously we cannot suggest leaving hydrilla near water control structures, boat ramps, main access points, channels or canals. Also portions of lakes with a large number of private docks are not appropriate areas for hydrilla to be left unchecked.

A good example of the types of areas we are talking about would be the Kissimmee Chain of Lakes (Kissimmee, West Lake Toho, Cypress, Hatchineha), Lake Walk-in-Water (a.k.a.L. Weohyakapka), Lake Istokpoga, Lake Sampson, and Lake Rowell.

What we need... Those who know these lakes need to get together and markup a map or chart of the lake with areas where the hydrilla should be left untreated. These maps will be forwarded to the FWC to assist them in making specific recommendations to DEP for spraying THIS YEAR. A copy of the FWC proposals will be made available for public comment.

Tussock control is also to be considered. We have learned that DEP likely will have an unusually large amount of funding available in FY 2005-06 to control tussocks (floating islands of vegetation, or thick vegetation that could become tussocks) in public water water bodies. Again, the eligible water bodies would be public lakes with a public boat ramp. This does not include Water Management District managed properties (for example, Stick Marsh, Emeralda Marsh Conservation Area) or Corps of Engineers-managed areas (like the lower St. Johns River system roughly north of Lake Poinsett). The FWC would like to see much of this money spent to benefit fish and wildlife habitat. They are looking for our specific suggestions of locations on public water bodies where excessive tussocs or extensive thick/rank vegetation is impeding access to duck hunters or is degrading waterfowl habitat.

Many duck hunters around the state have been complaining about aquatic weed control during the winter migration for years. Duck hunters are now being asked for input. If this has been an issue for you, please take the time over the next 2 weeks and help UW-f help you.

If you do not know who manages a particilur lake or river system, please contact me and I'll try to find out if it is eligible for consideration in this program.

Novalex
04-22-2005, 05:54 PM
For example, the St Johns river system roughly north of Lake Poinsett is managed by the Corp of Engineers.

Actually, it's the Lake Washington Weir & to the North.


CJ

Converted
04-22-2005, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the clarification Jeff. That's exactly the type of info needed. I assume there is a weir on the NW corner of Washington and the Corp manages north of that point ???

Is Washington managed my DEP or SJRWMD?

I'm told stick marsh is SJRWMD. How about Garcia and Ansin?
Blue Cypress?
Sawgrass and little Sawgrass Lake?
Hellen Blazes
Kennansville Lake?

Logans1437
04-22-2005, 10:24 PM
I'm working on a synopsis of Lake Kissimmee for you - hope to have it by Tues./Wed. of next week. Keep charging Dave - your work is appreciated.

novaalex
04-24-2005, 06:07 PM
Lake Itsopoga should be allowed to have hydrilla all around Bumble Bee Island and te stock island where livestock used to be kept. They should let it grow from the inside out. This would allow the residents and marina's on the edges not to be bothered and would allow access of the edges of the lake for fishing! Lake trafford in Immokallee should be another area where hydrilla should be allowed to spread so that it could return to its healthy situation as it was in the 70's and 80's! Last but not least hydrilla should be considered in Dade and Broward counties to slow the spread of cattails in the Glades. Sawgrass Recreational Area, Francis Taylor, and Holiday Park should all be pilot sites for hydrilla introduction! The tussocks of mud are a natural ocurrence in the Glades and is how most tree islands are formed they should not be destroyed!

Converted
04-25-2005, 10:22 AM
Following is a link from the DEP website that lists all areas that are eligible for consideration on a county by county listing.

Public Waters Eligible For Aquatic Plant Management Funding (http://plants.ifas.ufl.edu/guide/reimmap.html)

g8rvet
04-25-2005, 11:01 AM
I have detailed and specific suggestions, but they are for COE managed Lake Seminole. If and when that comes to pass let me know.

Converted
04-25-2005, 11:04 AM
Larry, the Florida Section of lake Seminole is listed in the link above. It's in the Jackson County list.

N. Cook
04-25-2005, 12:13 PM
Do not worry about over reaching into areas that may not be covered.....we hope the FDEP program will spill over into the other agencies sometime in the future and we will need the info then. Diane and the FDEP will sort out the maps.

This is a chore for anyone who is working on it as you soon find out.....trying to keep channels open, docks and ramps clear, historically open water and fishing areas in lakes....etc etc. and give a realistic apprasial to where the hydrilla can be allowed to grow to benefit wintering waterfowl requires a good knowledge of the area.

CAPT. CHRIS
04-25-2005, 03:30 PM
Can we just ask to send "Applied Aquatic" back up north where they came from?

Kevin Hall
04-25-2005, 11:55 PM
Since that list includes the connecting lakes to the St. John's River ...

In my area ...

Lake George - littoral zone - keep navigation channels open
Lake Dexter - Keep navigation channels open
Tick Island Mud Lake - Don't touch it!
Lake Woodruff - Keep navigation channels open
Spring Garden Mud Lake - Don't touch it!
Lake Monroe - littoral zone - Keep navigation channels open


Basically any lake connected to the SJR needs to be left alone, except for navigation channels. The "Mud" lakes in the list are extremely shallow (less than 2') and need to be left completely alone!

N. Cook
04-26-2005, 08:53 AM
MAPS!!!!!! WE NEED MAPS....The Florida Atlas and Gazeteer by Delorme we all use for "marking'" our spots and finding our way around is the best. Costly, but either tear out the appropriate page or use some other means ( I can't say how legally) and color in the spots to leave hydrilla in red. Send the pages to David for compliation.....we may put it all in one copy of the Atlas......and submission to Diane. We only have a couple of weeks so please move with haste!

Logans1437
04-27-2005, 12:12 PM
Please post a 'send-to' address for Dave so I can get my maps in the mail. Thanks.

Converted
04-27-2005, 12:25 PM
E-mail sent :icon_salu

Wilbur
04-27-2005, 04:27 PM
In stead of sending maps why not give the name of the water body and what page it's on in the Gazzetter and the index points (C-2 ) ? That way we could make a master copy to turn in. It's just an idea, and may cut down on alot of paperwork.

Kevin Hall
04-29-2005, 03:16 AM
OK ... You asked for maps. ;) I downloaded aerial pictures from Terraserver and added lines & text with "Paint". Here they are ... not the greatest quality - but the general idea comes through. :) Couple these pictures with my earlier comments and you're ready to go!

Here's Lake George ... The littoral zone (vegetated shallows around the edges of the lake) needs to be protected from spraying.

Kevin Hall
04-29-2005, 03:18 AM
Lake Dexter ...

Kevin Hall
04-29-2005, 03:21 AM
Lake Woodruff & Tick Island Mud Lake ...

Kevin Hall
04-29-2005, 03:23 AM
Spring Garden Mud Lake ...

Kevin Hall
04-29-2005, 03:26 AM
Lake Monroe ...

uncle D
04-30-2005, 09:39 AM
Kevin,

I think these airiel photos are great. Maybe, that's how we should present the focused lakes and waterways to the powers that be.

Duke

Logans1437
05-02-2005, 09:53 PM
Converted-

Did you get my map of Kissimmee yet? It should be to you anyday now.

Converted
05-03-2005, 09:14 AM
Yes, thank you, it came in yesterday's mail.

I need to talk with you about the spraying on Kissimmee last year. Please e-mail or PM me with a phone number and good time to call.

DUCKWHACKER
05-03-2005, 11:46 AM
David, did you say "for a good time call"? :booty: