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matthersjr
11-30-2004, 11:17 AM
Too bad the sta permits are non-transferable; working the opening weekend of the 2nd phase and would trade for other dates if possible.

Randy Clark
11-30-2004, 02:38 PM
no there not but how do the numbers change for morning hunts do they allow walkins after someone has limited out just wondering

duckmanJR
11-30-2004, 04:37 PM
Unclaimed permits go to the first in line...then, as people come out... walk in's take their place.

Randy Clark
11-30-2004, 05:56 PM
so if your just down there no permit someone leaves they let more people hunt

Super Dave
11-30-2004, 09:14 PM
I have it on good authority that the names are really not being checked on the permits, so you could give it to someone else for them to use. At STA1W 11/21 PM and 11/28 AM a considerable number of the permit holders didn't show and there were several "standby" spots available so you can probably get a spot there on an alternate day if you really want to hunt it.

Randy Clark
12-01-2004, 03:54 PM
**** and i always liked living in longwood that was until i saw the stas south florida is looking better every day but i guess you guys living there probably are like my son come visit but go home.

novaalex
12-01-2004, 05:50 PM
Walk ins have had success since last year! It all depends what you are willing to sacrifice. If you want to be #1 on the list be prepared to give up work on Friday and drive over on Thursday because that's what it takes. About the names not being checked I wouldn't go to far with that because they just might check and you might be the unlucky one who gets screwed. If someone gave me a permit I would be really quiet about it and I would only tell the person at the gate!

Super Dave
12-01-2004, 06:04 PM
FYI, there was only a total of 24 hunters for PM session at STA1W,(see results click here) (http://wld.fwc.state.fl.us/duck/Check_Stations/STAs/2004/STA%201%20West/2004/04_STA%201W-1.htm) and 37 hunters for the PM session at STA5.(see results click here) (http://wld.fwc.state.fl.us/duck/Check_Stations/STAs/2004/STA%205/04_STA5-1.htm). So there was more than enough room for multiple walk-in's.:eek:

N. Cook
12-02-2004, 10:41 AM
The "non transfer" rule was put in to prevent "gaming" the system as much as possible.....it has worked well along with the rule allowing walkins to replace both no shows and hunters checking out....as many more hunters who are willing to go out and get on stand by are making it on the STAs......in fact there are hunts where all the opportunities are not used. This opening of opportunity in the long run will result in almost everyone who wants to hunt on the STAs will be able to do so several times a year, but all will get the same shot at the first signup period. Newton

Randy Clark
12-02-2004, 06:04 PM
we need a sta outside orlando

DUCKWHACKER
12-02-2004, 08:55 PM
How about one in west central Florida?

D Duck
12-03-2004, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by Randy Clark
we need a sta outside orlando ;)

N. Cook
12-03-2004, 07:50 AM
Of course, the STAs are filter marshes constructed for cleaning the water flowing into the southern Everglades.....but you have made an important point......the so called "management" of marshes for ducks by the various agencies, state and federal, should copy the STA vegetation and water levels model and forget their current practicies which have fair to poor results....even here right next to the STAs we have Holey Land and Rotenberger which are not duck meccas, but could be!

But, that would mean encouraging hydrilla g rowth as well as the traditional duck plants and the raising and lowering of water levels to renew the vegetation, etc. etc.....and maintaining 3 to 4 feet depths or less during the winter migration period. Tough work? It seems to be so....but the STA managers do it, even during the hurricanes they got the STAs back on tract. The difference may be that the STA mangers catch **** when the results of their work (lower phosporous levels) are poor. They have a vested interest in keeping the STAs in prime condition 12 months a year.

For those areas not "managed", ie the river systems, the managed spraying of hydrilla allowing the shallows to carry hydrilla into the migration period would have many of the same effects. Keeping the channels and open lake areas clear of hydrilla and leaving the shallows unsprayed seems to be a challenge for the agencies......THE HYDRILLA IS COMING BACK TO THE SPRAYED AREAS ANYWAY!!!! and leaving some in the shallows probably will not hasten that return......a test or two should determine the feasibility of this....
Newton