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10-26-2004, 10:10 AM
This is the note I got from him...

Rent the movie Fahrenheit 911. It is not a Bush bashing movie like you might think. It is a documentary of the Bush's history until present day, narrated by M. Moore. They bash themselve thru their actions. It shows how they sucked up to the Saudi royal family for almost 2 decades. It all on film right before your eyes. One of the first things G.W. did after 9/11 was to see to it that the 20 Bin Ladin family members in the US were safely transferred to Europe. The Bin Ladins and Bushs were long time business cooperatives. A lot of the Bush's family money has come thru Saudi Arabia. Osama Bin Ladin has a specific axe to grind for the way the US has had relations w/ the Saudi's and Isreal. The Bush's have been on the forefront of this relationship w/ the Saudis. There may have not even been a 9/11 if Bush was not elected president. Which he wasn't. The election was stolen by disqualifying ballots in primarily Demo. areas in FL. It was in the newspapers when it happened. The movie covers that pretty convincingly. Ole brother Jeb took care of everything. Did you know that G.W., as president, was on vacation 40% of the time before 9/11. He admits to that on film prior to 9/11. There was no one at the wheel to prepare for the attack. Like I say, this movie shows everything on film. It covers things from the Haliburton contract and the way they let Bin Ladin get away. You need to see this. Before you comment in his defense, see the movie. You won't argue (or vote) for him afterwards. He will turn his back on the nation to satisfy big corporations interests and the interests of the wealthy. They fund his campaigns. You will see that for yourself in the movie. Your not likely to see gas prices go down w/ G.W. either. See the movie. CH

My letter back...

I can't believe you actually fall for all this bull crap! Man, I know you, you are smarter than that. You have got to get that class envy cloud out of your head. You just hate Bush because he comes from a rich family. So what! I love rich people. Every time they build a new building or a new house I get to work on it and it pays my bills. I've never made a dime off a poor working stiff. Do you actually think your life will be better with a New England Liberal in the White House? Oh by the way, He will be the richest President in our history. He's got six houses worth over several million each. Maybe you better vote for Nader.

Nearly every lie in that movie has been documented to be made up. Have you ever heard of propaganda? Much of it is refuted in the 911 commission report. There are web sites that explain how fat boy slob rich SOB Moore played pretty loose with the actual facts. Maybe you had better take a look at FahrenHYPE 911. That's a "Set the Record Straight" flick by Dick Morris.

Unfortunately the Saudis control about half the world's oil. Can you even imagine what would happen if they shut off the pumps? This country would drop into such a deep and long recession that we'd be eating dirt. Oil is the engine that runs the free world. We can complain about it, we can try to develop new technology but in the mean time I hope we get all the help we can get from the Saudi Royal Family. Would you rather have the Mullahs running the show over there?

Weren't you here in 2000? The election was not stolen! I get so sick and tired of hearing that! There were official recounts and Bush won every one. I remember, I was here and so were you. I don't need Michael Moore to tell me what happened. There were even more recounts by the newspapers and CNN and the New York Times after the official recounts were over. Bush won everyone of those as well. Even the ones where they counted all the dimpled chads. Don't you think there would have been huge headlines about how Gore won the recounts. It didn't happen! The only votes that were not counted were the votes from the military people overseas that did not make it back in time. The Democrap Lawyers had all those thrown out or the margin would have been a little bigger than 537 votes.

"Vacation 40% of the time" Bla, Bla, Bla, Bla. No President is ever really on vacation. This 40% thing includes weekends at Camp David and assumes he is supposed to be in the oval office 24hours a day. 911 had nothing to do with GW. It had everything to do with 22 years of not responding to these nuts the way we should have. It all started when Carter let the Clerics run the Shaw out of Iran. We've had attacks ever since. With each attack we sent a few missles into the desert and went back to our lives. As Kerry said Terrorism was a just Nuisance. GW said after 911, that this crap is going to stop now. We could have shot off a few more missles and went back to sleep. What happens when these nuts get a nuke or send a good old fasion Plague over here. Bush correctly said that this is a war and we had better go on the offense. There is no way we can defend this whole country. We can not put a tank on every bridge. We can't station troops at every water supply lake. Bush took the fight to the enemy. He made the terrorists defend their own turf. That is what Iraq is all about. The terrorists understand it. They are pouring in there to defeat us. Unfortunately many people in this country want to bury their head in the sand and pretend that everything will be OK. "Let's pretend we haven't been attacked." "Lets go back to sleep". "This is too hard, I don't want to deal with this anymore." I'm glad we've got a president with some backbone that doesn't need the UN to tell him what is right for America. The UN, French, Germans and Russians were all on the take from Saddam's oil for food program. It was the largest corruption scheme in the history of the world. I don't choose to be on the side of Kerry's buds in Europe.

"Haliburton", geez, Clinton gave Haliburton a no bid contract in Boznia. Was he on the take with them also? The fact is that you can't contract with Joe's Construction Company down the street to build bridges and deliver food, water and fuel in a war zone. There are only a couple companies in the world that do that kind of stuff. I suppose we should have let the French, German and Russian companies bid on the work as well. But wait, that would have been outsourcing, I thought we were supposed to favor American companies. Which is it?

While I'm on outsourcing, I keep hearing about this loop hole that lets American companies go overseas and get out of paying taxes. The implication is that this is something Bush did. I don't remember congress voting on any changes like this. I did a little checking. Do you know when that "loophole" was passed...... 1913. It was part of the original IRS code. The idea is that if an American company has a plant overseas we don't charge them taxes on that plant or they will just sell it or create an overseas subsidary and the American company becomes weeker. Any congress for the past 90 years could have changed that law. Now it's Bush's fault?

If you think my mind can be swayed by thoughtless hype and lies you don't know me very well. I'm awake, alert and I pay attention. I believe in the free market economy that made America what it is. I don't want to become more like Europe. The Republican party is the party that is fighting for what I believe in. The Democrap party fights for almost everything I oppose. Higher taxes, more regulations, gay marriage, abortion, government run health care, globalism, taking my guns and right to hunt, wako environmental laws that forget people are part of nature just like the rest of the animals are. Basically I don't think a big government program is the solution, more often than not it is the problem.

This election comes down to one thing for you, "I hate Bush and his rich daddy and I hope he gets his." You're blinded to the fact that there is a rich fat cat aristocrat in the race and it ain't Bush.

Sorry if this sounded kinda harsh, I've got other friends that are not voting for Bush. We can disagree on this and still be friends.

DL

Randy Clark
10-26-2004, 04:53 PM
david dont really know how you can be so polite to stupid people but i guess god has to put a few polite people in with the rest of us gun lovers or we would just get tired of listening to their liberal crap and shoot them. just kidding but isnt it tough to like someone and listen to that garbage. im glad im the boss where i work and everyone agrees with me. or at least is smart enough to pretend to. all except one of my subs an electrician if any one knows a smarter one please email me name and number.

Kevin Hall
10-27-2004, 12:25 AM
I've been participating in a nationwide political poll ... for about 6 months now... Here's the latest results as of today. If you would like to take the poll ... it can be found here http://rd.gophercentral.com/al/a?aid=6802&ent=1954

***************** The Polling Station ********************
Oct. 26, 2004 220,611 Subscribers

Results You Will Not See Anywhere Else...
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Greetings Citizen:

A few weeks ago we suggested that we had a race on our hands.
This no longer seems the case. Bush is moving ahead in an
almost insurmountable fashion. We are left scratching our
heads asking why are our polls out of sync with the rest of
the polls?

We have a few conspiracy theories.

Conspiracy theory #1:

Polls are Kerry shills and they do not want to demoralize
the base. People do not like to vote for losers...that is why
many stations do not call the vote until polls close. Polling
at times influences behavior.

Conspiracy theory #2:

Polls are Bush shills and they do not want to predict a
landslide because the base might decide not to turn out if
they knew he was so far ahead. (One Bush supporter wrote in
and said if he believed that Bush was so far ahead, he would
stop campaigning because it would be wasting his time.)

Conspiracy #3:

The media loves a horse race to keep interest high...which means
more television viewing and more newspapers read.

There may be one more theory, but not conspiratorial. Are we wrong?

WE DO NOT THINK SO...

And if we are right, then either these other polling outfits are
brazenly incompetent or they have an agenda that is not in keeping
with the public good. It means our experiment will have proven
useful in exposing fraud of the highest level...

AND IT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE HELPED US...

This experiment has morphed as we have gone along. We are getting
approximately 13,000 of you participating each week. But we need
more of you to take a few moments and retake the preference poll
over the next two weeks. We are trying to get 50,000 people to
participate in the week running up to the election. Will you
help us?

We have irritated a lot of people along the way as the experiment
has proceeded. We have moved BEYOND polling to being a community.
We have added staff just to read EVERY SINGLE POLLING comment that
comes in...and they now measure into the thousands. We provoke at
times, entertain...but always the numbers remain pure.

Thanks for participating.

Best,
Henry, Jane and the Polling Station team.
~~~~~~~ National Question-Of-The-Week ~~~~~~~

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his interaction with his producer?

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Total number of polls filled out for dates 10/15-10/22:

N = 13,129 Margin of error, +/- .5%

........ Dem ........Ind ........ Rep .... Total
Bush .... 838 ...... 2111 ........ 4141 .... 7090
Kerry ...4009 ...... 1356 ........ 143 .... 5508
Nader ... 25 ...... 94 ........ 12 .... 131
Undec. .. 116 ...... 247 ........ 37 .... 400
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Below we have the trends again covering the last three weeks.

2 Weeks ago...Last Week...This week... Change

Bush ..... 48.7% ...... 51.9% ..... 54.0% .... + 2.1%
Kerry ..... 47.8% ...... 44.6% ..... 42.0% .... - 2.6%
Nader ..... 1.0% ...... .8% ..... 1.0% .... + .2%
Undecided . 2.5% ...... 2.8% ..... 3.0% .... + .2%

Bush continues his rise, Kerry his fall. The conventional
polls are way off. There is no poll out there saying the
truth, and that is that Kerry's numbers show he has a major
problem with his base. 16.8% of Kerry's base are voting for
Bush...not Nader.

Gore held base Democrats. As long as Iraq is not the featured
in the news with blood and guts, Bush takes Independents
by a huge margin (see below).

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Nationwide Independent Break Down

A total of 3,808 voters identified themselves as
"Independent" last week.

........ Last Week .... This Week

Bush .... 51.9% ..... 55.4%
Kerry .... 40.2% ..... 35.6%
Nader .... 1.9% ..... 2.5%
Undec .... 6.0% ..... 6.5%

So we have the dynamics identified rather well, and in two
weeks will be proven dramatically right...or dramatically
wrong. Kerry's support with Dems is poor...and his support
from Independents is simply eroding.

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Last Week's Question

Should we pull the troops out of Iraq after the
elections no matter what the consequences?

N = 13,123 error +/- .5%

....... Yes ........ No ... Undecided

Bush ... 3.1% .... 94.2% .... 2.6% ....
Kerry ...47.2% .... 36.7% .... 16.2% ....
Nader ...57.7% .... 30.8% .... 11.5% ....
Undec ...42.6% .... 44.9% .... 12.5% ....

Over all nationwide results:

23.3% of the total say we should pull out after elections
67.9% of the total say we should NOT pull out after elections
8.7% of the total say they are undecided

It appears that "staying the course" is what most Americans
opt for. We think that this is because there is not much
difference between Bush and Kerry. But it also points
out why Kerry is having so much trouble with his base.
47.2% of HIS BASE DISAGREES with his position on keeping
troops in Iraq.

Contrast that with 94.2% of Bush voters agreeing with him
to leave troops in Iraq. When you look at the numbers from
the molecular viewpoint, Kerry seems boxed in to lose
this by a huge margin.

To View Past Questions & Results Visit:
http://rd.gophercentral.com/al/a?aid=6802&ent=2282


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BATTLEGROUND STATE POLL RESULTS

There are 17 states that represent the "battleground" for the
election. We looked at a state that was supposed to be solidly
in Kerry's pocket...New Jersey.

NJ N = 509 error +/- 4.5%

......... Dem ..... Ind .... Rep ... Total

Bush ..... 20 ..... 106 .... 138 ... 470
Kerry .... 168 ..... 59 .... 5 ... 232
Nader .... 1 ..... 2 .... 1 ... 4
Undec. ... 1 ..... 7 .... 1 ... 9

Percentages

.........

Bush .... 51.9% ..........
Kerry .... 45.6% ..........
Nader .... .8% ..........
Undec. ... 1.8% ..........

This was not supposed to be a battleground state. Either we
are doing something drastically wrong, or Kerry is going
to have his hat handed to him.

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BONUS BATTLEGROUND STATE

Wisconsin

N = 511 Error +/- 4.5%

Bush .... 51.9% .....
Kerry .... 44.4% .....
Nader .... 1.6% .....
Undecided. 2.2% .....

We are obviously seeing a trend here. Wisconsin went for
Gore. Is it possible that Kerry makes Gore look like a good
campaigner?

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RutnNStrutn
10-31-2004, 10:45 PM
David, how can you be friends with an imbecile like that? I'd be bashing him so hard and so regularly that he wouldn't want to be my friend for long. :D

Jason
11-03-2004, 06:54 PM
Rut most dems have thier head so far up thier *** they dont have a clue your making them look like a idiot .. :confused:

my neighbor hasnt even said hi to me since i put a pro bush sign in my front yard i bet he kicked the dog today he was so mad bush is here for 4 more years !! He told me i was stupid and if bush was reelected the world would end lol