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Steve W
04-26-2004, 03:00 PM
The Conundrum of “Margaritaville” Continues
By Jim Kalvin

Sorry folks, but I just can’t hold off on this topic any longer.

As a Florida native, boater, fisherman, sailor, and mariner, all of this “Jimmy Buffet Margaritaville” garbage has to be called for what it is.

I mean, think about it… For over thirty years, Buffet has been going all around the world singing the praises of life afloat - most specifically in the Florida Keys or the islands of the Caribbean.

From Seattle to New York, and from North Dakota to the southern extremes of Texas, he has been inspiring people to go south, get a boat, and live the Jimmy Buffet life-style.

His writings and music are rife with references to certain bars, islands, restaurants, bays, and inlets that have been immortalized, and have become destinations for millions of visitors over time. Along with the locations, a healthy dose (or an unhealthy dose - depending upon your point of view) of alcohol and marijuana is added to the mix in order to provide the mind-altering perception that one is able to escape reality, and come to Paradise with Mr. Buffet. Or, as in his latest smash hit co-produced with Alan Jackson, he says that your ills can be cured by walking off of your job, getting drunk, climbing aboard your boat, and heading, once again, south to Margaritaville.
But what is one really going to find when one reaches the City Limits of Margaritaville?

I believe that most would be surprised to say the least.
First of all, you won’t be able to find a dock to put your boat. If your boat is on a trailer, you will have to get up pretty early to find a parking place at the boat ramp - if you can find a boat ramp that you are able to use. And marina space? Forget it! Marinas in Florida are disappearing as fast as redevelopment permits can be obtained, and we are not getting any new facilities anytime soon.

Secondly, if you are able to put your boat into the water, you are likely going to be faced with massive “no entry” areas, extended (miles long) “slow speed” zones, or Marine Protected Areas (no fishing, anchoring, diving, or other uses allowed).

One would be inclined to ask why it should be so hard to come down to enjoy that which Mr. Buffet promotes. And the irony is that it is Mr. Buffet himself that has led the charge to curtail pleasure boating throughout the State of Florida through his financial support and direct involvement with Save the Manatee Club.

A good idea at the time of inception, the “Club” now pays its directors much more than it spends on conservation efforts or anything having to do with “saving manatees.” And the modus operandi of the group is to sue individuals, municipalities, and our Government agencies to curtail water access throughout the State. Millions upon millions of dollars have been stuffed into the salaries, retirement accounts, and expense accounts of SMC directors, while their long-range objective has been to close one waterway after another.

Current marina owners have been sued, and potential builders of new facilities face impossible mountains of regulatory red tape due to the whinings, legal maneuverings, and heavy-handed tactics of these “for-hire” non-profit environmentalists. As well, single-family home-owners are now being stripped of their ability to legally keep their boat in the water behind their homes. And, Buffet’s name is wielded like a weapon in legislative committees and agency staff meetings. Strangely, he is touted as the end-all, be-all, do-all of aquatic resource management by his drones at these gatherings.

Funny, though I was a fan of his during the 70’s and 80’s, I don’t remember ever seeing “Dr.” or “PHD” in front of, or behind his name.

So, Mr. Buffet - who is probably personally responsible for more boaters coming to Florida than any other single cause (including the Marine Industries Association or our Tourist Development Councils) - makes it possible for SMC to wage their war against those that call themselves “Parrot-Heads.” The very people who are responsible for Mr. Buffet’s wealth are the ones that his “Club” is attacking - and has been attacking since the mid 70’s. While he could have been using his considerable influence over the years helping with boater education, safety initiatives, and real resource protection measures, Mr. Buffet has, instead, chosen to wage a silent war against all aquatic resource users. By making targets of his fans in the name of “saving the manatee,” he has done the manatees, the State of Florida, and the entire aquatic resource a severe injustice.
Is this just my opinion?

You might like to think so. But the Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commissioners might tend to agree. They have publicly lambasted the leaders of Save the Manatee Club recently, and on numerous occasions, for misleading the public, lying to the Commissioners, costing the State huge sums of money fighting their base-less lawsuits, and for ignoring available science in pursuit of their “no-growth / anti-access” agenda.
Come down to “Margaritaville”?

To do what? Stand on the bridge, and look at where you might have been able to go boating years ago?

Buffet is taking your money to fight your ability to enjoy the very things that he has sung and written about. But don’t worry - he will always be able to enjoy the Oceans. His sea-plane, and his motor yacht will take him far away from the waters of Florida that he is helping to close down - one waterway at a time.

I’m just sorry that Alan Jackson has been duped into believing in the myth of “Margaritaville.”

RutnNStrutn
04-28-2004, 10:01 PM
Yeah, you can't beat the Buffet songs of the 70's and 80's, but his politics suck. Why is it that singers and actors feel they are suddenly expert on politics and wildlife and other environmental issues? :confused:
Good times and riches, and son of a *****es, I've seen more than I can recall!!! :D

As the son of a son of a sailor, he should be ashamed of himself. :rolleyes:

RutnNStrutn
04-28-2004, 10:11 PM
Buffett singing at CJ's Island party??? I'm all about that!! :)
Buffett influencing politics?? Someone is smoking dope! :rolleyes:

Are we destined to be ruled,
by a bunch of old white men? (the answer to that is YES!)
Who compare the world to football, '
and are programmed to defend?
I'd like to try a princess,
or a non-terrestrial...............uh, yeah, right, take another toke there Jimmy!!! :D
or
Why don't we get drunk and talk politics??? :confused:

whistlingwings
05-01-2004, 03:34 PM
"Blew out my Bong Pipe
Ran out of Bud Light
But I found some stash I had hidden at home
Put it into my blender
And soon it will render
These lil' fudge brownies that help me get stoned

Wastin' away again in Marijuanaville"

Buffet is overrated, he is a good musician, but far too commercialized

Steve W
05-01-2004, 06:27 PM
These days there is a balancing act between our thirst for entertainment and the political influence of those that entertain us when it opposes what we believe.

To me it is one thing to have a belief contrary to mine and another when it is imposed so as to infringe upon rights, freedoms or priveledges.

This is the problem with Jimmy Buffet and the SMC. It started out as an education project for a DUI that Jimmy got and has turned into a power hungry group seeking to use the orgs stated purposes to curb development in Florida. It is not about the manatees anymore for these people it is about control.

Check out www.standing-watch.org and see how they work for you to keep the SMC in check while using sound science practices to ensure manatees are not headed for extinction.

Novalex
05-01-2004, 07:06 PM
For gods sake, this has got to be one of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen.

How can this bonehead blame Buffett for:

1) Cheap Land Prices
2) No State Tax
3) $25,000 Homestead Exemption (maybe soon to be $50,000)
4) The retiring "baby boom" generation
5) Land Developers making it a better deal for the land owners to grow houses instead of citrus
6) & last but not least, the Florida Board of Tourism

This is another one of the Standing Watch leftists who needs to blame something that none of us have any control over.

I'm all for "Saving the Manatee & Pole/Troll Only Zones" as long as they are based on science.

Margaritaville is a state of mind, not a real place.


CJ

whistlingwings
05-01-2004, 08:15 PM
Margaritaville is a state of mind, not a real place.

**** Hippies, say they want to save the earth but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad;)

RutnNStrutn
05-01-2004, 09:54 PM
CJ, see if you can get him to perform at the Island Party this year!! :D

Steve W
05-01-2004, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by Capt Jeff
For gods sake, this has got to be one of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen.

How can this bonehead blame Buffett for:

1) Cheap Land Prices
2) No State Tax
3) $25,000 Homestead Exemption (maybe soon to be $50,000)
4) The retiring "baby boom" generation
5) Land Developers making it a better deal for the land owners to grow houses instead of citrus
6) & last but not least, the Florida Board of Tourism

This is another one of the Standing Watch leftists who needs to blame something that none of us have any control over.

I'm all for "Saving the Manatee & Pole/Troll Only Zones" as long as they are based on science.

Margaritaville is a state of mind, not a real place.


CJ

Where did anyone blame JB for anything you listed?

They are only blaming him and his "club" for unnecessary restrictions on boaters, docks, dock builders, suing the FFWCC and the USFWS, wasting millions of money in court that fisherman and hunters have paid that was supposed to go to our sport.

Controlling growth is now what the SMC is about, not manatees.

BTW, how are the no motor zones based on science? It seems they are based on fear, just like manatee zones.

As for margaritaville, we know it a state of mind, but getting drunk to solve your problems never works.

Novalex
05-02-2004, 04:52 PM
Controlling growth is now what the SMC is about, not manatees.

BTW, how are the no motor zones based on science? It seems they are based on fear, just like manatee zones.

As for margaritaville, we know it a state of mind, but getting drunk to solve your problems never works. [/B]


At this point in the game, I'm all for controlling growth.

First off these are not NMZ's & are not based on science, just on a system that has worked elsewere in the state, like the Keys & Tampa.

No one is being denied access.

It's nothing more than a "Still Hunt/Walk-In" area only (GOODWIN).

No one seems to biatch about those.

I think it funny how people say the guide want exclusive fishing rights to these areas.

Well I say buy a **** push pole & trolling motor & stop killing the grassflats.

Now pass me another beer, it's Sunday dammit!!!

Novalex
05-02-2004, 04:54 PM
BTW, I'm all for bumping heads with the SMC, they are idiots.

But the Standing Watch folks ain't far behind them though on the evolutionary scale.

Someone get me another beer!!!

Kevin Hall
05-02-2004, 07:49 PM
Jeff,

I've got ice cold Coronas in the fridge ... will that do?

;) :D

Steve W
05-03-2004, 07:29 AM
Jeff,

The problem is not Standing Watch, but the SMC and people that place a higher value on their musical entertainment than the priviledges of others.

http://www.refugepics.com/members/Floridaboy/boycott_buffett.jpg

duckmanJR
05-06-2004, 12:42 PM
A zealot is DANGEROUS..no matter which side of the coin he's on!

and don't worry about Buffet and SMC..he has a choy-Lee sailboat and isn't worried about speeding in manatee zones.

As for pole/troll..I'm with CJ.... get off your azz and work a little...you will see more fish and won't screw up MY fishing or the once lush grassbeds that are now horribly prop scarred....

uncle D
05-06-2004, 07:35 PM
I'll bring the sponge cake!

:D

Duke

Steve W
05-07-2004, 09:09 PM
Zealots could be dangerous, but I guess that depends on what your definition of a zealot. Usually they are the ones that get things done.

I don't care about the pole zones, besides how are they going to enforce the zones in the dark?;)